Episode #29

Episode #29: Laura Dawn Psychedelic Leadership Podcast.

Duration: 1:30:28

Laura Dawn [Intro]:  My name is Laura Dawn, and you’re listening to Episode number 29 of the Psychedelic Leadership Podcast, featuring a conversation that I had with a dear sister who for this episode is interviewing me on the topics of Psychedelic Leadership. Meeting ayahuasca, I would say was the real turning point, this is my path, and you’re my teacher. And this is what I want to dedicate my life to and that can mean a lot of things to a lot of people listening who work with ayahuasca. And I also happen to be my father’s daughter, which I would say is just radically stubborn in the way that I want to live my life and choosing to work with medicines in a way that is outside the box.

But dedicating my life to what it means to listen to direct transmission from the plant medicines themselves. Without it being like, I need to fit into this plant medicine box or it has to be done this way or that way. The moment that I drank medicine for the first time, I knew that I had a lot to learn from her and how I could just show up as a human being working with a plant, like all human beings have done for millennia. You know, I would say that was the turning point, I realized that my Dharma was to cultivate the understanding in myself around what it means to be a visionary. So a few weeks ago, I was invited to speak on my friend Natasja Pelgrom I can’t get her name, her last name is Dutch, Natasja Pelgrom.

Her podcast is called the Awakened Podcast. I just call her Natasja Pelgrom because it’s easier. And when she interviewed me for her podcast, I wasn’t planning on sharing that conversation here. But it occurred to me afterward, I’m always asking myself, how can I change things up? How can I do things differently? And I also speak to this in this conversation with Natasja Pelgrom, looking at what the mold is, in this case, how is this podcast quote-unquote, supposed to look? And then asking myself, what are all the ways I can do it differently? And then I thought, well, why not share that episode, that conversation that I had with her podcast, the Awakened Podcast, and one of the things I’m learning, and I am getting this on a whole new freaking level, is how to peel the layers back and show up in my authentic expression of who I am.

And let’s just be honest about this, it is easier said than done; it is just easier said than done.  We can talk all about being authentic, let’s just be authentic, and then when there are those moments where I say something that’s pretty edgy, and I’m realizing how often I do push the envelope, so to speak, about the topics that I’m speaking about. And it’s pretty hard to step out and own a perspective, especially in the psychedelic space. And so I’ll say that, I think the real training here and in fact, the irony of it is that I do believe that plant medicines are teaching us how to hold a perspective lightly, shaking the neural snow globe, quieting the default mode network, loosening our grip over the story we tell ourselves and inviting us to not cling on to our beliefs about anything at all.

It’s the practice of genuinely trying to stay open, which again, is easier said than done. So as you listen to this interview, keep in mind that I’m evolving, we all are, it’s very likely that I’ll look back on this episode and chuckle at myself at my perspective, because maybe I’ll see something in a different light, or God willing, I will see something in a new light in the future. So when we listen to other people speak, it’s also that invitation to create space in our hearts and minds for other people’s growth and evolution as well. This is something I’m learning on a personal level when I think about my relationship with someone close to me, like someone in my family, and I hold a narrative about which they are and that narrative might stay the same.

Meanwhile, they’re growing and learning and evolving as human beings. It’s so interesting the way that narratives work like that. And so some of the topics we touch on in this conversation are just so freaking nuanced.  Psychedelic leadership is such a nuanced topic, and my goodness, sometimes these topics just feel like minefields. And there’s just not enough time in these conversations to offer the full picture perspective, to look at it from every angle, we just can’t. And so these topics are just rampant with paradox and ironies that trust me, are not lost on me. Now, let’s set the stage here for the opening of this conversation and why you are listening to my nose run, I like constantly sniffling for the first entire half of the episode.

I’m sniffling to the end because I didn’t have a Kleenex nearby. And I didn’t just stop and say, let me go blow my nose. But what’s going on there is that opens this episode with his beautiful grounding meditation that she wasn’t recording. And she just channeled something at the moment that just brought both of us to tears. And it was imagining both of us sitting on this porch as old women looking back on our lives and all that we’ve done. And I’ve just been in this tender-hearted space making peace with my life, making peace with my impermanence lately, connecting to the knowingness that one day, I’m just going to be dust going back to this earth.

And when we hold this knowledge in our awareness it just can’t bring you to tears.  At least that’s just the case for me anyway. And if you haven’t listened to my solo episode, all the way back at episode number four,  I can’t believe I’m about to hit episode number 30 next week, I recorded on the initiation of bowing at the altar of impermanence. It’s just such a bittersweet topic for me. And it’s also just up right now because I’m moving through a big portal of transition and transformation in my life. I’m coming out of a decade-long relationship, I’m calling in a new home base, and honestly, I’m just working hard right now, that ebbs and flows in my life.

But I’m holding space for this three-month micro-dosing mastermind, who we talked about a little bit in this episode and I have over 30 people in that group. And it’s a lot to hold space for, and I love it. And it’s also you know, energy output, and I have the podcast, I’m also in graduate school. And now I’m moving through this time of transition out of nine years of marriage. And so, I’ve been reflecting a lot on this notion of impermanence. And also when I’m working hard, and I’m working to support the psychedelic movement, I have a vision that inspires me. And it’s also a lot of energy output. And I’ve needed to zoom out and look at the bigger picture and ask myself, what do I care about?

What do I value? What’s important to me right now? And what is this all for? And just struck a chord in my heart with her opening meditation. And so the conversation opens pretty much in my mid-sentence when hit record. And I was speaking to the sense of just how honored I felt to be able to interview some people in the space, who have dedicated their lives to this movement. And feeling like there’s this passing of a generation and this generation that just holds such a wealth of knowledge and wisdom. And I’ve felt privileged in moments to be on the receiving end of these conversations with people like Dennis McKenna, and Sandra Angermann, for example.

And in this conversation, you’ll see, it just doesn’t get rawer than this. Well, unless you listen to the episode on Oponopono, where my mom and I do this real-time forgiveness practice,  maybe I should say, it doesn’t get rawer than that and holding space that it can get rawer than all of this more real, more authentic. And that’s the invitation that I’m permitting myself to step into right now. And the truth is, getting back to the runny nose is that I’m a crier, I do shed a lot of tears. It’s how I process emotion. And I also love to laugh, which you’ll hear throughout this episode. But I feel so deeply I feel a lot and sometimes, I also feel passionate about what I’m speaking about.

And just learning more and more into permitting myself to show up in the expression of whom I am in the okayness of who I am, that passion is energy and life force moving through me. And just owning that and permitting myself to be in the expression of that. Enough about me for a moment I want to say something about Natasja. I adore this woman, check out her Awaken Podcast. I’ll post a link to her podcast and her Instagram in the show notes. And I will have Natasja on this podcast as a guest as well, where I’m interviewing her. And so has been with Synthesis Institute for quite a few years now. And they’ve been rolling out some pretty high-level psychedelic facilitator training.

They have a world-class team that they’ve put together to teach these training programs. And Natasja is just doing such great work with them. And that’s how we met, I was invited to come and spend a weekend dropping into their program in the Netherlands that was pre-COVID days now. But Natasja is just so much more than that role. We are all so much more than our titles. She is such a beautiful space holder, she’s a guide, she leads retreats, and she is so full of wisdom. And I cherish our blossoming friendship, especially the long hilarious voice memos we leave for each other on WhatsApp, because we both love to laugh, which again, we do quite a bit in this interview, especially when she says some funny shit right at the beginning.

So at the end of this episode, I’m going to leave you with a song called Serve the Truth by my dear friend, Mary Isis, which just felt so appropriate for this conversation, where we dive into a whole bunch of nuanced topics related to Visionary and Psychedelic Leadership. And before we dive in, just one more note that songs like this can be found on my playlist for Psychedelic Journeys and beyond. There is one playlist on there that is so great for cultivating a micro-dosing, morning flow. And you can find that on my website at livefreeLaurad.com, where you can also swipe with my free eight-day micro-dosing course, which gives you a good foundational starting point for cultivating a micro-dosing practice.

Alright, without any further ado, here is my conversation with Natasja interviewing me for this episode of the Psychedelic Leadership Podcast.

Laura Dawn: I have the privilege of the conversations I’ve had with some elders where I feel I’ve received their wisdom and holding space for their passing for the degeneration, and we’re stepping into this. You and I are stepping into this generation now of eldership I’m not quite there yet. But just holding space for the passing of the generation and thinking about myself as an old woman, if I can make it that far and even more just thinking about the perspective of what it’s all for, what we’re doing everything that we’re doing right now and what it what is it all for and bringing that perspective into the day to day with all the waves of change, where surfing and everything, all the energy we give to people every day, and just bringing that bigger picture perspective of what it’s all for.

Natasja Pelgrom:   I know, it’s one of the things why I realized recently because my Dutch grandmother, half Portuguese, half Dutch, and my grandmother are alive. And she’s a children’s book writer. They’re writing a biography right now about her. And she was looking through her diaries throughout the years to get pieces to give towards the book. And she shared with me how that was to read her own story about what she was cooking this afternoon. And how she was playing with the dogs and I came to visit and all those memories. And I thought to myself, I don’t have those diaries because I’m not a writer and in that sense, I write differently in space.

And then I thought, but I do, it’s this podcast. So when I did the opening centering of I envisioned myself sitting on a porch and sitting with some sisters and being older and sitting in this space and then listening back on the question that I asked was so alive back then, if we would only know that this would have meant this in the end, so I envision that calmness and that reverence of elderhood that we’re stepping into ourselves.

Laura Dawn:  That being said, I found my first gray hair this week. I told my lover that he said, did you pull it out? And I was like hell, no, I would never, are you kidding me? I embrace my silverback

Natasja Pelgrom:  Yes, well, I have them on my head but not pubic hairs yet.

Laura Dawn: No guys it’s so funny. So funny

Natasja Pelgrom: Thank you for this beautiful starts Laura Dawn sweet Laura Dawn, how we got to know each other through the work and holding that space and you coming in with a playfulness, open heart, and beautiful smile and me going like a little girl, when you’re in the playground and looking at another girl and saying I want to be your friend. But I didn’t know how to [inaudible 16:10] this little girl part showed up. And I remember at the end of the ceremony, where I was just like I need to switch this around. So I put some dance music on. And then I started dancing and you came back into space. I was like I like you we are dancing, a beautiful introduction into our connection from then on.

And I just wanted to say and start naming here on the podcast about the work that you do and how much inspiration and a lot of respect, I bow my head down for the work that you do for the path that you do the absolute brilliance in communicating very clearly and standing in truth. And the truth is for many of us a very different truth, there is only one. So I wanted to share that today, I have this opportunity to have that recorded. And I would love to start Laura with going a little bit back in time. And because there are a few things that bridge our lives in a way that I don’t think we even fully realize. But one of the things that I recall and I was reading up on you is about your past and about plant medicines, and I how it helped you through depression, but also addiction.

And I recognize that path very well. And I would love for you to just go a little bit back in time. And if you can share that journey a bit with our listeners, especially for these listeners that might not know you. So give some context before we go into the juicy topics.

Laura Dawn:  Well, I just want to say thank you so much for those kind words. That means so much coming from you and the way that you hold space. I just admire and respect your space-holding capacity so much. And I felt the same about you. I was I just want to be her friend, and once people see what a goofball I am and how much I just love to dance and joke and laugh, it’s a whole different story in terms of cultivating friendship from that place. But thank you so much for the invitation about my journey and my past.  In my teenage years, I struggled with depression. I remember hearing Eckhart Tolle’s definition of the painful body for the first time when he came out with the power of now.

It would just be struck me and it was just that feeling of I don’t know where this is coming from, this pain body. Well, I’ll start by going way back before I was even born. About a year ago, I had an ayahuasca journey. And, it’s 20 years of working with plant medicines, and still new things coming up. And my mom and I are quite close. And I had a vision in that ceremony of something that happened before I was born prenatal trauma. And I called my mom the next day, and I asked her, what happened when you are pregnant with me? And she started crying, and she had never told me this and this was just a year ago, and she said that she quite far along in the pregnancy, she was going for an abortion. And she went to the clinic and she was about to abort me.

And then she decided last minute to keep me she said, I gave my other three children a chance I have to give you a chance too and that came through the medicine and I felt it,  and I felt just the imprint of wounding, of not belonging and so in my teenage years, there’s so much that we’re dealing with in this culture where I think everyone’s just trying to figure out what it means to be alive on the planet today, and just making sense out of just that, just living in this story of separation, as Charles Eisenstein would call it,  this disconnected reality where we all live in these cookie-cutter homes, and everyone’s so disconnected and working so hard, and just so much ramp and stress. And that was 20 years ago, now it’s this amplified to the max. So I was in that place of just struggling with making sense out of what it means to be alive.

And being a teenager struggling with depression is just so hard, because you think, what’s wrong with me?  What is this and I had a very strong propensity to want to explore the unknown, sort of hurl myself off over the edge, and I had my first high dose psilocybin experience when I was about 14 15. And it was at that time, I started intuitively just taking very small amounts of psilocybin when I was going to school, and it helped me and so this was many years ago, before the term micro-dosing. I remember the first time I heard the term micro-dosing, was that makes so much sense, and then over the years, and it was different back then, it wasn’t in a ceremonial context, I received so much benefit from being able to have these journeys, at that age where I was out in nature, looking up at the vastness of the cosmos, and questioning, why am I here?

What is this all for, and just laughing from the gut, from the depths of my soul, connecting to that place of laughter? And I think that stayed with me all of these years, there’s a strong propensity towards seriousness and drive and all of that, but having that backbone of laughter and humor at the sheer irony of what the fuck it means to be alive right now is one big cosmic joke in a way. And, then in my later, as I was still coping with so much I was in my undergrad, I had a degree in finance and was on the fast track of success. And I was struggling with drinking, and with overeating, and just numbing out, it was quintessential, numbing out not wanting to feel and moving into more cocaine addiction. And it was one very strong LSD journey that I was struggling with cocaine addiction with my ex-partner; we were doing a lot of cocaine in those days.

And I had one LSD journey where  I saw myself from a different perspective, and I saw other people on cocaine that night, and I saw an energy quality there, and I said, you know what, I’m done. I don’t want that to be my life. And I walked through a door that night and put down that addiction and never went back and that was the beginning of understanding addiction and I spent many years doing a lot of research into addiction. I wrote a book about food addiction and so I had to do a lot of research there and understand the mechanisms and more from a spiritual perspective than anything that was the inquiry, like why is I numbing out? Why am I reaching for something to not feel, and I found Pema Chodron’s teachings and Eastern philosophy that have had a tremendous impact on my life, huge impact, more so than I would say anything?

Including psychedelics, those teachings have helped me an enormous amount. Just learn what it means to be present, and sit with discomfort. And I find that those teachings around making contact with groundlessness and learning how to cultivate presence amid discomfort, learning what it means to sit in the middle of the fire that goes hand in hand, with working with plant medicines. You can’t work with plant medicines for 20 years and not know what it means to sit in the middle of the fire, and sit and learn how to sit with discomfort and make peace with that without trying to push away when you have nowhere to run.

There’s nowhere to run in the ceremony, you have to sit and stay. And I think that’s helpful to start making peace with addiction, with numbing out, with distraction and there’s full-blown addiction. And then there are the millions of ways that we move away from the present moment, moment by moment in every day of our lives. So, I think that’s what plant medicines are ultimately showing us is it’s not about the medicine it’s about how we show up and meet the medicine and it’s about consciousness, it’s about connecting to the vastness of the conscious awareness that we are.  So, that’s the journey.

Natasja Pelgrom: Yes, beautiful and nervous, so much recognition and awards are you using right now because I think my first experience was at 14 15. Which psilocybin and at the time, I wouldn’t realize what was shared with me until a few years ago. So sometimes it takes almost a lifetime to fully unpack what is shown up and exactly sitting in that uncomfortableness. I recall a moment of deep heart pain and shame of the space of when the moment when you start peeling away that onion of stepping out of I have to deal with this right now cannot go any further. And then going through the layer of shame how you’ve abused yourself, how you’ve shown up in a relationship with others.

And I recall a moment sitting in the shower of sitting in that pure, uncomfortable space, and having a full-blown awakening process and having a full-blown multi-dimensional, quantum physical expansion of awareness. Where, when I was a child, I would always see more of sacred geometry with plants and things where you will see, when you are in plant medicine space, and that was such a turnaround for me, and that was almost the precursor to go towards plant medicines and that work. How was that for you? What was for you the pivotal point of where you said you’ve done intuitively micro-dosing in the past, you’ve reached a point where you weren’t even at a numbing, sitting in that pain, what was the transition for you to then go, this is my life, I don’t want to be?

Laura Dawn: This is my path.

Natasja Pelgrom: But this is where I am, exactly.

Laura Dawn:  I would say every moment has led me to this moment, so it’s all been so relevant. working with psilocybin and LSD for about 10 years, and then meeting ayahuasca, I would say, was the real turning point of this is my path, you’re my teacher and this is what I want to dedicate my life to and that can mean a lot of things to a lot of people listening who work with ayahuasca, and I also happen to be my father’s daughter, which I would say is just radically stubborn in the way that I want to live my life and choosing to work with medicines in a way that is outside the box. And right now, it’s so interesting; I find this to be such a paradox, with the amount of judgment in the psychedelic space.

And I understand why, I get it, I have judgments too, as we’ve talked about, but dedicating my life to what it means to listen to direct transmission from the plant medicines themselves. Without it is like I need to fit into this plant medicine box or this plant medicine box or it has to be done this way or that way. Because otherwise, it’s called, quote, unquote, cultural appropriation, or which is a whole can of worms, and I have so much respect for always. And also, the moment that I drank medicine for the first time, I knew she was my teacher, and that I had a lot to learn from her and how I could just show up as a human being working with a plant, like all human beings have done for millennia.

I would say that was the turning point, I realized that my Dharma was to cultivate the understanding in myself around what it means to be a visionary. And that is a tricky place to walk because being a visionary or a leader of our time means that by definition, you’re stepping beyond the status quo. So even stepping beyond the status quo in the psychedelic space, is nuanced territory. It’s tricky to navigate that space. So I think, and then we have judgments, I hear people holding all kinds of Ayahuasca and electronic dance music, Ayahuasca and yoga now, it’s like there’s something for everyone.

So, it’s like I try as much as possible to maintain an open mind and we can all hold it with safety, harm reduction, there are key pillars that we can’t skip over, I think, no matter what we’re doing in the space, and I think just holding it with this awareness for me, in this process of what does this mean to be a visionary? And are these plants here to show us how to think in this way, and I believe that they are. And maybe that’s just a transmission that is meant to come through this being in my life and dedicating my life to that path. But also, just knowing what I don’t know, like the vastness of how much I do not know, the more you ask, the more you realize that you just don’t know.

So it’s like, how do I hold that spectrum of being a leader wanting to educate, wanting to support people and also saying, there’s so much that I don’t know, here, we’re all learning in real-time, right now. That’s what’s happening in the space.

Natasja Pelgrom:  How do you see the challenges as a leader yourself?  Simply as we learn and we grow, something that I believe two years ago, I might speak something very different.  So, how do you create an accountability process for yourself or a reflection process for yourself to be in this visionary state and be in leadership and taking the responsibility in that space? What’s your take on that?

Laura Dawn:  There’s so much to say about that. But well, first of all,  knowing how to set yourself up to make honesty easy,  so I just started my micro-dosing mastermind, which was the essence, the idea came through a visionary medicine space, where I said, there are so many people wanting to step into leadership roles in the psychedelic space, it would be great if we had this cohort of people where we can cultivate a container that sets us up for honest communication, clear feedback, supporting each other in a way that lifts each other, and creates sort of a model and a blueprint for how people can create a peer to peer support networks.

To not just like, quote, unquote, hold each other accountable, but to teach each other how to navigate this space, with a lot of humility and a lot of learning. And so it’s like, we just started our first sort of content call yesterday. And so I set myself up to be able to say, in the future, you know what, I was wrong about that by opening the container and saying, I don’t have all the answers, I’m learning right alongside you, I might be leading this container and holding the primary space holder for this container. But by no means do I have all the answers. And I’m here to learn just as much from you, as you are from me. And that’s my hope.

So it’s in a way, and I genuinely feel that. So I’m also setting myself up for the end. And I even said that at the end of the three months, I can’t wait to tell you all the things that I did wrong, and all the ways that I learned about what not to do next time, so I can share it with you and you can learn from that. And we can have exponential growth and transformation. So one level is the personal level, honesty, radical honesty,  humility, and I’m not always humble, sometimes I have these moments where I’m like, I just did the coolest thing, and it’s just that balance of being able to hold what we’re creating, and, either the sky and feet on the earth.

So the person I think level, and then the cohort, peer to peer level, and then the elder level, and the people who have been doing this a long time, and having people who love you, who you trust and who you know, will give you honest reflections and help check yourself in those moments where we come out of big psychedelic space, and we have all these ideas like, I know that space of my transmission channel being way open, and someone being like, Here, let me grab your foot and like, bring you back down to earth and it’s real, and learning how to set up the structure of our lives too, so it’s like the person the peer to peer, the elder and then the structure, the larger container, the set, and setting.

Setting means when we’re in psychedelic space is just amplifying what’s already there. So how do I set up the foundational practices of my life to incorporate, goods sleep habits and good eating habits and meditation practice that helped me check myself and show up to the best of my capacity as much as possible because if I’m getting four hours a night of sleep, I’m not showing up in centered, cognizant full. I’m debilitating myself on a certain cognitive level, so that’s a sense of responsibility that I have as a leader to take care of myself, and seeing it from that perspective, I think is important.

Natasja Pelgrom:  Beautiful, I love this topic about this leadership. And I know this is also your topic and your work and how you show up in what you bring across also with your podcast. And it seeps through very clearly. So the leadership aspect for those listeners of psychedelic leadership, just making it simplifies, what does that mean? What does that mean to be a psychedelic leader?

Laura Dawn: Well, this is a funny story, because, you know those images where it’s one image, but if you look at it one way, it’s a bird, and if you look at the other way, it’s like an old woman, those like perceptual illusions; it’s the same thing with psychedelic leadership. Essential components of what these key pillars of what psychedelics and sacred plant medicines teach us in our lives, like empathy, like pro-social behavior, which means a willingness to help support other people just for the act of wanting to support other people, creative thinking, and creative problem solving, which is the master’s degree I’m currently pursuing.

Looking at all of these ways that psychedelics are helping us they’re an advanced training ground to teach us how to become more heart-centered, more empathetic, more compassionate for ourselves, but also other people, more connected more aware of our connection to this earth, as Dennis McKenna, who is just so poetic, he says, plant medicines are the neurotransmitters of the guy in mind telling us to wake up and we were at the ninth hour here,  we have to wake up, we don’t have a lot of time,  as Pema Chodron would say, there’s no time to lose. So that was my entry into this naming of the podcast, which was an excruciatingly painful process, and for the first several months, I agonized over this thought of people are going to just think that I am so hubris to like claim this name, psychedelic leadership.

And so the flip side of that is, what most people see as psychedelic leadership name is, this is a podcast for leaders stepping into the psychedelic space. So I unintentionally put myself in that role and I would never from that angle, would never have chosen that name. Because I am like, don’t follow me, for the love of God, just don’t follow me like this is, it wasn’t that. And I didn’t realize that, which is so funny, because my mind was just so focused on like, the old woman and not the bird.  I was so focused on that one angle, and then I realized, I’m receiving a lot of emails from people asking about facilitator training, and how do I become a leader in the psychedelic space? And so my sort of the programs that I teach, and the work that I do is how do we cultivate a heart-centered leadership, regardless of the domain that we’re in?

But it’s looking at the pillars of like, what is the sort of key tenants like? How do we work with plant medicines to help cultivate a vision that expands the boundaries of what we believe is possible, it’s time to think bigger, we have to think bigger. And that’s what leadership is whether you’re in the psychedelic space or not. And so I’ve created a sort of a roadmap, a framework that’s come through the plant medicine space, called the path of the creative, visionary Bodhisattva. And there are big components to each one where I weave wisdom, these teachings that are 1000s of years old that have had a huge impact in my life.

Nobody owns these teachings. They’re for humanity. They’re to support the awakening of humanity. And they just so happened to go hand in hand with plant medicine space. And then there’s this whole teaching around what it means to embody the visionary, how do we train ourselves to think bigger, my mind thinks in Venn diagrams. So it’s the visionary pieces thinking bigger, but that’s what Pema says, the distillation of what it means to be walking the spiritual path is going from narrow mind to open mind. That’s the same thing and that’s what it means to be a visionary and that’s also what it means to be creative and think creatively. So weaving, science, psychedelic research, what are we learning now with neuroplasticity? How are we seeing with Dr. Robin Carhart-Harris’s research about pivotal mental states?  What can we learn from that and apply what we understand with creativity training, like training ourselves to think more creatively in leveraging those windows of heightened mental flexibility, with the goal, the drive to solve some of the most challenging, complex problems that we’re facing, and help uncover solutions?

So that we can radically choose to live differently on this Earth right now that we can find solutions that help us live more connected, that help us embody more self-compassion for ourselves and others, like, look around. These are the most divided times; these teachings help us build bridges. And that’s what we’re all doing in t